East - West and Turkey
June 8, 2009 by admin
Category Can Ataklı - Mehmet Faraç , Interviews
"Face to Face intellectuals" Can Ataklı and Mehmet Faraç söyleşilerinin journalist guests, "East - West and Turkey," the colloquy on Bursalılarla met.
South-eastern Turkey after the elections that he began by expressing View Faraç, the PKK terrorist organization in this period "politicization" said the effort should be seen that a hundred percent successful. The last local elections, the ruling party's campaign and the tremendous response to the enormous size saçmasına money (180 trillion liras in this quantity), the DTP in the hands of municipalities to increase the number of one hundred percent record in this context, considers the Faraç, "It is clear that, in his own right to interpret the new state of the PKK in the region , as a result of the U.S., the northern Iraqi administration, an effective political power in Iran and Turkey is trying to compacts, "he said.
The most important instrument in this endeavor as the PKK's past as a different use of religious motifs and expressing feelings Faraç, "Now, if you have a gun in their hands, have one hand and a Koran. Hezbollah fighters in the old, old mullah who had sided with hundreds of today is moving along with the PKK, taking the most important urban centers of political actions, "he said.
Touching on the PKK in the past Faraç-Hezbollah conflict, said:
"Hezbollah-PKK conflict with the blazing days of the Independent reporter went to Diyarbakir. The multitude of coffees, as well as attracting the attention of colleagues in the settlement of this kahvelerdeki interesting: four wicker chairs around a table and chairs alçacık seated four people sitting idly! .. I always look the same! The same view of each coffee! ..
This outlook has encountered so much so, that a certain meaning to me, felt the need to ask whether there is perhaps a symbolic meaning. I told her that said: This was one of four PKK militants, one of the Hezbollah militants, one of the secret agent, is one of sacrifice! ...
This paradox was in fact a truth expression. This was exactly the situation in those days. Hezbollah is, in fact, much as was claimed by the state is not established or something. Hezbollah, the State did not establish. Only benefited from it. Instead of following the actions of released. Turned a blind eye to provide weapons and bombs. Some actions have also occurred where use of weapons by the police. For example, the Gospel Publishing House's stand, taken during the book fair in Gaziantep, the death of a child in a large number of people who cause injury to the officers of the police station on which the bomb was determined Siverek. Such a fixed relationship by a court order. But that's another situation, another situation is the establishment by the government! ..
Hezbollah militants, during ten years in all cities in the region literally terrorized. Began their domination of the evening the streets are suppressed. Three persons were organized in the form of cells or teams. Majority of the 'thinner addicts' or 'Ballice known as' the children had been elected. Hizbullahçılık gave them money and reputation. Ettiklerine whether the person was involved. Thus debildiler terrorize the entire region. Thousands have been killed in the process. Blood flowed like a flood! Now there is the acid wells or something. These wells, bodies of people killed and thrown there, the bones can! But it is the PKK, Hezbollah, or the 'deep state' they are the victims will never be understood! ..
What happened at the end? Searched everywhere but can not be found a kind of twenty-one years Velioglu Hussein Beykoz police raided the villa. Velioglu was killed in a firefight. Velioglu çatışırken police colleagues, Hezbollah was busy riddled computers archive is stored. Still, with the help of CIA destroyed these disks çıkarılabildi reveal some information. This information, including organizations in the region that a hundred thousand people, ten of thousands of people are preparing it, not only in the Southeast dalbudak saldıklarını around Turkey, showed that more than four thousand people can use it as a shooter in the killing ...
Interestingly, in the determination of need to add: Velioglu the hands of Hussein Abdullah Ocalan to Ankara with the board came with their luggage, had studied in the Political In Information. Many people know they were going to pray together in the same mosque.
How is she ever, from the same poor environment, studying at the same school, who head the two are the same prayer, one of the region come from the Marxist / Leninist, other religious fundamentalists set up terrorist organizations separately served as a bloody war with each other? This is a paradox. But in a region called the Southeast region of paradoxes. There the plan, discount plan for the Kurdish Kurds. Klayşinkoflar hands, ghost Takaroflar (Russian-made pistol) tutuşturulup were sent to commit murder. Takarof, the most commonly used, or even the main silahlarıydı, that, that's another paradox! .. "
Political literature of the Middle East, "the leader goes to the organization goes," it was said, reminding Faraç, Velioglu with the killing of Hezbollah to corroborate this literature into a complete disintegration of dispersion, but only recently started to recover again, he said. Hezbollah's entry into the process of disintegration, and hence the "grave houses," the, "a live bomb" caused by acts of terror in the region is also effective in expressing Faraç, "After all, Hezbollah mullah team, trying to be active in the region instead of Fethullah Gulen community approached the PKK . Community, this trend is already in its origins, Trial Balance (religious and non-aggression policy, since the trend with Kurdish and PKK) had as strong. Gülen community 'space' and wants to take advantage of them, 'opportunistic' attitude appears even more reinforced this trend. Thus, as a result, the PKK, Hezbollah's brain team, administrative staff F. Smiling group was taken away, "he said.
F. Gulen group, both in the Southeast, and in northern Iraq has been effective and that more than one hundred schools in the region, as well as a commercial company manages hundreds of records Faraç, this situation because of the new communal competition, a new group of smiling faces with Hezbollah brought to recover, he said. Faraç, "In the coming days between Hezbollah and the Gülen community in a number of unexpected events may occur. There are clear signs of this. Hezbollah issued a statement recently, the Gülen group did not want to clash with the warm, but outside the control of such a possibility with some groups have announced that, "he said.
The PKK, in northern Iraq, particularly because of the pressure more easily available to the first of eight hundred thousand square kilometers that armed militants had to purify the Faraç; "Four thousand five hundred PKK militants in northern Iraq, an integrated, especially the United States' following the retreat of the region, before us is not surprising that the new emergence of a mission, "he said ..
In this eventuality, "How is that?" He knows to show response that expresses Faraç, "our memory often fades. Burial easy to forget even their homes. PKK killings in the forgotten. Bakar, Abdullah Ocalan, the hand directly into the bloodstream bulaştırmadığı sentence under house arrest by claiming that such a justification can. With such an application without requiring a number of free facilities can achieve, "he said.
SUCCESSFUL INTELLIGENCE ORGANIZATION not be said that
Faraç, on a question of whether the Turkish intelligence agency was successful, said:
You will recall, November 15, 2003, in Istanbul, two huge explosions occurred. Police authorities, officials of the Interior, 'have found traces of, caught, catch' he trying to calm public opinion, was five days later, two more big bang. A religious organization, as well as the middle of Ramadan, four tons of explosives loaded truck and Christians, Jews, religious, political, and commercial centers, organized for the suicide attacks! Turkish society, that day is a new organization (al Qaeda) have encountered, but this is how to get to know the back is a process and heedlessness öğrenememişti! ..
What is Al-Qaeda, who? Regime, the official sect of Saudi Vahabiliği reference, this organization, the Salafi-Wahhabi line Anatolian Müslümanlığına contrary, imposes strict and narrow-minded way of thinking. This understanding of the regime in Turkey, "Darul warfare" (governed by the laws of Islam), he niteliyor. Members of the organization, praying behind the imam kılınamayacağını argues that the government payroll. Commitment to religious scholars and profanity counting visits to the cemetery. According to them, 'do not believe in Tevhid'e goods, lives are halal. The sect-mysticism infidelity. Amulets, rosaries, chanting, prayer is superstition vain '.
In November 2003, the Neva Shalom Synagogue in Beyoglu, Sisli Beth Israel Synagogue, United Kingdom with the HSBC General Directorate Başkansolosluğu bombalayanlar buildings meant that's radical religious lines. Jennifer Habib Aktas trained Elaltuntaş, Massoud Quick, Feridun Ugurlu and Ilyas Kuncak by militants, ascribed to the trucks that's a ton of explosives for the sake of ideology ateşlemişlerdi! ..
In fact, they were not in Turkey, the first Salafi militants. Salafi-Wahhabi understanding of Malatya, Turkey for the first time, established in 1974, "The idea of Malatya Club" had developed within. The resulting cell is led by Abdurahman Gokmen Jewish Manisalı'nın Isaac had announced the name of the act of kidnapping. M. Emin Yilmaz led the organization of its predecessor, the 1995 Bingöl Ceyşullah uncovered, 21 people 6 Kalaşnikof'la geçirilmişti together.
Following the September 11 attacks were followed closely in the Turkish Salafis. Group of 5 to 7 October 2001 in Istanbul Feyzullah someone was exposed to the operation. Captured 5 people for training in Chechnya, Iraq and Iran, have said they were going.
29 October 2001 in Gaziantep, was seized in 14 of its predecessor was being instructed to go to Afghanistan. Salafis responsible for Turkey, "Abu Said Al pennyroyal" is code-named Mehmet Balcioglu arrested in 2001 in Antalya. Al-Qaeda cells that make up 'Association of Imams' Ali Grapes manager is taken into custody and released on the same dates.
Its predecessor organization the leader of the Ankara-based Royal British Hulusi Kıdık and 15 companion 19 December 2001, in Konya, led by Murat Runner 'Qur'an Call Group', 8 February 2002, Malatya Semsettin Özaykan group and 25 in March 2002 revealed were removed.
Armed Salafist groups from time to time for training in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Saudi Arabia for religious education came and went. Until 2001 at least 500 people in Afghanistan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Chechnya, Tajikistan, Kashmir, involving areas such as the wars, was noted.
More than three thousand people died in America after September 11, 2001 attacks, al-Qaeda camps in Afghanistan, U.S. planes bombalayınca Turks fled to the countries of origin, the majority of Salafis. Most of them, such as Hezbollah or Kurdish origin, was not the East and Southeast. Among them have stayed, Konya, Eskişehir, Kayseri, Nevşehir, Çankırılı, Bursa, Sakaryalı, Sinop, and there were militants Afyonlu. However Afanistan'daki to use weapons in the camps, to make a bomb, assassinate militants in the years of training, passed a year of silence, then the output cells!
Osama bin Laden had sent to them of $ 150 thousand for a sensational action. Preparations continued for 1 year. Meanwhile, the Islamic foundations, publishers, companies, and held the base of some mosques. IBDA-C, Hezbollah, Ansar al-Islam, a Muslim militant organizations such as Youth was transferred. To organize and promote the ideology of al Qaeda Salafi 'picnic' in the name of their ideological and military training camps held. Spouses, friends and brothers in action, such as family companies have formed cells. And mosques, stores or even spice-made bomb, a bomb on the use of meetings and discussions held. Check the phone with the sim card it typically thousands of outlets open. Even set up the factory for the manufacture of detergent ...
All roads have made them official. Chambers of commerce, police authorities, public prosecution, are there records of finances ...
However, what international relations, what 'piknik'leri, what training camps, nor the person to be brought into the foundations and mosques dikatini attracted base. His hands, his arms swinging at the end of the preparations continued, and they did do ...
Now, how is it that Al Qaeda is able to move freely and to come up in the middle of Istanbul's citizens, the death of hundreds of thousands more wounded in the bombing of the gerçekleştirebiliyor action?
In this case, the Turkish intelligence is active, that is to say that successful? The world's most bloody of the two largest organization PKK and Hizbullah'tır. These two organizations in Southeast Anatolia, making a very long time and for any action, such as murder committed. This is an intelligence organization, the success of organizations at the beginning of bastıramayan Can you tell us who?
Intelligence is what the true goal of our organizations to serilmiyor clear that the Ergenekon investigation? Kemalists, Atatürk's, academics, retired soldiers, journalists fişleniyor monitored. One million people tapped phones. This is a big job, a tremendous job! Everything's worth the sacrifice! Worth the sacrifice, the way the real terrorists, the bloody religious organizations can throw the javelin almost freely. We also means we have to watch what's going on ... "
BAKILMAMALI in one window
Carter spoke after Faraç'ın Söyleşi'de Ataklı, stating that the events bakılmaması single window, otherwise the "shallow" manuscript in preparation, or even to reach the mantıksızlığa said. Ataklı, on a question of the "deep state governments, independent of the state are showing as an olguymuş. It can not happen. Deep state are all over the world. In this regard, 'the State, expressed the deep things, the things that gangs are a number of degenerate reprobate must be separated, "he said. Turkey is a very important country, releasing the Turkish state, representing the root of this land a thousand years Ataklı, "Obama, 'all the time, due to Turkey is an important country," he said. Obama's promise of government must be one in the eye. Because, 'my brother, you're not that important, your party of power, but the most important factor is Turkey' man! Whoever is in power, or whether the AKP, Turkey's most important to them or get someone else says that it is the country! No one deceive himself is the truth, "he said.
Ataklı his speech, dwelt on the consequences of looking at events in a single window. Law, politics, economy, almost every issue until the "easy-going pursuit of the comments that" the Ataklı, said:
"For example, 'Ergenekon' investigation, arrests, and consider the views put forward in this context. Say what you say: They say, 'But they going to blow'! Is the investigation of the coup? Impact is not a crime? You, the shocks do not? ...
OK, my brother, impact of crime! But an investigation, the law, must be in accordance with the law! Hıncal Uluç give up hitting ardamı 3 months free. Hıncal'ı man came and shot gun in his hand. The wound is closed, bandage over the wound, looking out man! Kıymış lives of ten people drive in traffic, looking at his hands shaking so browsing! In fact, per vehicle can return! However, throughout their lives lived in clean, throughout their lives or careers in science dealt with the rectors, university professors, journalists, retired soldiers, or how long they would remain under arrest, and there is no caring about making you hold inside!
Impact 'crime' of course, but how a crime? Rest in a phone! The media is listening! You know there is a such a word! So he listens to this place, you can also angered, whether veriştiriyorsun! Ha media got caught at work! Ergenekon is the perpetrator of the coup were accused of being a member of the organization received, or tutuklanıyorsun query!
These friends, their 'democratic' she says! If this is the 'kesmezse' turned 'liberal democrat' he says! But please, how democratic is that? Democracy, fundamental rights and freedoms can not defend a democrat? Ilhan Selcuk, this country was going to run away? It was released but did not go anywhere! Mehmet Haberal, the arrest, but not concerned to patients waiting for their healing. Haberal was running away goes, you say, this country? Why go? Turkan Saylan shy about what happened in words, but they talked back and forth, but 'No! You can not do! You can not make anyone 'could not say the. Because not say. Because looking at the window of power. Kuramıyorlar empathy. They are not about people coming from someone else's alone! .. 'Law must everyone' it said. Yes, of course, everyone should law! Perhaps most useful to those who need to lawlessness. Because lawlessness, sooner or later the real law requires. I will say: My brother, why did you do? Why did you do lawlessness? ... Hukuksuzun, sooner or later, do not be legal in sığınacağı? .. "
"Deep State" Ataklı discussions also addressed the "deep state", to find one under any circumstances where the state faced a number of complex decisions in secret and said it was connected to these applications. Ataklı continued as follows:
"Here, they say, initially consisting of çapulcudan '40 'in the PKK, a terrorist organization which has become rampant militant of thousands! How is it done? The region, "State of Emergency" is declared! Administrative structure, the military structure is organized accordingly. Opposite there is a gang! Methods of the regular army regular army, a gang fight. Then you come here a number of structures. People appointed by the state, such as a gang fight in the mountains begins. The man, 'I killed a thousand people' he says. For this, he says ...
However, the process begins to lengthen the corruption and some of them zayıflayınca control. In the cities there is always restructure the mob, and the like comes into the relationship. Works connected to them as a murder, extortion to collect. This state, the state has nothing to do with deeper? "
EMPIRE IN FEAR
The ruling and its supporters, while maintaining the Ergenekon operation, "namusumuzdan and respect for the law" benefited, "the true democrats of this country namusluluğunu and honor" who uses the phrase Ataklı, that, "everyone is equal before law, no one is untouchable," said the saying was made.
"This sword swinging, but using the power of the state law, respect for those who take a lot of water so that the empire has created a fear of" defending the United Ataklı, "Everything was delivered into the hands of the judiciary, not something to be afraid of Innocent 'they say. 'Let's not interfere with the judicial system', they say. But his arguments to us, Referrals us, advise us of this country by doing the exact opposite ettiklerinin reputable scientists, intellectuals, people who are victims of conscience, "he said.
"There are so many demokrat'a (!)", and" it's so extreme devotion of democracy (!) ", But a blow to Turkey's constitution is a constitution," Sept. 12 seizure of intervention by the state administration of Kenan Evren and his colleagues are prepared by people in charge they should remember "expressing Ataklı, said:
"With the Memory Beşer Nisyan suffer," they say. In other words, society's memory, forgetfulness hastalıklıdır! Without it, the current constitution, the constitution of a military coup Over 92 per cent more than the approval of this society that is presented as a referendum unutmazdık! .. Who voted for that constitution? We voted! Perhaps the fear of fear, but a proper election, ie, 'free exercising our' go to 'yes' vote gave! Now, what say? 'We oppose shock'! ..
Above all, every word shock those who want to show as proof of something I have never değinmedikleri. In fact failed to do what they say were planning to blow almost 20 years. Pulse to achieve in terms of release for months, perhaps years in prison for so many people that do not form even have to keep the logic, justice and conscience to do it to fit, we need to ask the question.
Those conducting the Ergenekon operation in the event of revenge at the same time 'cleaning of Turkey as' wants to offer. It is trying to match with the operation Gladio in Italy. Operation Gladio in Italy, scattering mob of political relations has nothing to do with the fact of Ergenekon. There is a surplus of NATO has with the organization's politics and the mafia gang, there was an interest. Investigation was about 7 thousand people, but obviously could not get a final result.
Perhaps the 'results' were not in pursuit of taking. Because the purpose of the state in terms of NATO, a period, depending on the international force was established, so that no one knows what it is and what he was doing, but ultimately finished the task, he's finished with tasfiyesiydi structure. Purged finished ...
This 'cleaning' the claim, (this, 'gut clears Turkey', those who have expressed in the form of, you know!), Head of public opinion thanks to the legend of an illegal power is dissolved thoroughly mixed, and many distinguished persons who were arrested invisible, inaccessible, have done brutal things illegal The members of the organization is perceived to be. Televisions are a 'missionary' wandering tone of the so-called liberal democrats, on the one hand they provide power to protect the gains, on the other hand the complexity of the mind to remove hınçlarını körüklüyorlar real intellectuals. The value of any non-moral and conscientious, these values actually do not know what to tell these people had already left the party. But I know that: states and their role and feel quite. 'Liar pehlivanlık'tan happy, and this society, the enlightened people of this community are watching their damage with a laugh like a hyena! "
Information: "Face to Face intellectuals" Can Ataklı söyleşilerinin journalist guests and Mehmet Faraç'ın, "East - West and Turkey," the comments made on news of the interview.
