State of the Turkish Law

Husamettin Cindoruk and Suhayl Batumi "Face to Face Talks intellectuals in", "Problems and Future of the Turkish rule of law" also discussed.
Prof. Dr. Süheyl Batumi, in an interview "to see the table will work as a whole, stating that" began. Batumi, the words that absolute truths, only their own perspective, the problems are a product of perceptions, adding that "when you go home tartıştıklarımızı can review here, I'm sure once they interpret their own bakışınızla" he said.
Batum, Turkey's "democratic, secular and social state is a rule of law" is defined as a record, said:
"Turkey is going through an important period in the rule of law. Developments in the world has a direct effect on this process. 're Looking at the, somewhere, is what is happening in a region after a period of time in another zone, somewhere else again comes to your face. For example, Gorbachev is a process of disintegration of the Soviet Union. Fine American hat wearing, drinking good vodka. Nobody else knows of a property. But 'the world's most talented man as' ünleniyor. Then we see Yeltsin: find and comes up on a tank and "Press back!" He exclaims. Russia's president is a very short time. Then what happens? Against the majority of the Assembly in 1993, tanks, artillery, sending. Bomb and destroys the Assembly. U.S. and Europe, "Bravo, well done! Yıksaydın değmişken the first floor of the hand! "They say ...
Saakashvili then 'here's a little lived in New York, a man of the master or something, go to Tbilisi Shevardnadze's orange revolution, breaking forty-year master of politics, is the head of state.
In France, the ghetto uprising, and France, the mind takes dervishes' Where did we go wrong? Immigration policy, spend the next review of the social state poltikamızı? ' he thinks, someone called out Sarkozy: 'Vagabonds, y'all do not intend to give up tutumumuzdan off dead in!' he says. He says what's going on? He rebelled and suburbs, when the general elections, 'Sarkozy kurtarsa ​​kurtarsa ​​rescues us by saying' give him the votes to delete.
We know that his best way to westernization of the Ottoman Empire for centuries. Trade agreement signed in 1938. Institutions from the West have their own institutions transformed in this direction, began to transform. They also say, 'Now forget the 1938 treaty, sign of Reform Decree no westerner!' Then the constitution of 1876, then ll. Monarchy! .. But not, not! ..
These texts of these agreements, the reforms 'evil' do not say. Only, despite all this, the Ottoman Empire olamadığını western, western sayılamadığını, kurtulamadığını also want to point to dismemberment.

"Bendene OR ME YA SHUFFLE"
One term, 'Wardrobe revolutions' we'd call. Revolution of Atatürk and his friends on his head was not a wardrobe. They used to say, and his friends: 'easy to set up the Republic! Puts the name of, say that the state founded the republic, is over! But the republic, its citizens make it! It's harder to be dealt with is the original. A nation of equal citizens of this nation; gender equality; Unification and well-functioning legal system is secular! .. These are the citizen to be! ..
As his friends what he thought and thought they did. When you look at them, they do, they realized that the four principles do you see in the ...
So if you look at four of these four principles that we see a process disappear. First and foremost, 'such and such members of the congregation, the sheikh was a disciple of such and such' equal citizenship in the republic's no way to reconcile with the unity of the republic's education is not a case. Today the Minister of State Printer, I listened to a television station: 'I have nothing to do with the Supreme Electoral Council says. I'm sorry, but today is the fact that the administration of country: "Either let me, or you oppose me! '..."
Batumi is the distance of the French revolution the Republic of Turkey was founded 200 years trying to get at the "right of citizens to vote and be elected" by recognizing and giving the same rights to women recalled that soon. Süheyl Batumi, said: "The French, proud of the French Revolution of 1789! Right, left, center parties and youth, the elderly, women, and all of the man of the French revolution, the revolution brought by the authorities, first established in 1792, takes great pride in republics! So, what was meant for the French Revolution? For one thing. 'People get the same, be free in all respects as'. And the 'sovereign authority to manage the most outstanding, the authority to prescribe the' representative of God on earth, not kings or emperors, 'Let the people themselves as'. So, what did the French Revolution, also founded the Republic, became sovereign of the people is it really? No. After the revolution, 'to give a truly popular sovereignty' is almost 100 years have struggled. Spread to all citizens the right to elect and be elected, but could move the revolution of 1848. So, 'all citizens' Is there in the women? No. 1848 'Not so, however, the women sit at home and 3-4 children can' they said. So someone in Turkey in 2008 (!) ... In the words of women, but this right is recognized in 1944. On one side 1789, 1944, on the other side! ..
So on one side and 200 years, on the other side for 7 years or 11 years! Ours is a Republic that it had been established, four months later, the citizens of religion, equal in belief to have accepted, with 2 years and 4 months after the Civil Law has strengthened these equations. Now the French proud of all of the Republics, our Republic has someone 'trauma' geçirtmektedir, the exit point of the work! "He said.
Today's understanding of the rule of law is a republic with an understanding of the rule of law differs from one precipice Prof. records. Dr. Süheyl Batumi, said:
"For example, the Public Procurement Act has changed 16 times in full. Why change? Harmonization with the EU to be! So, Turkey is a tribal tradition of the state that an ordinary law, one at a time so accurate, error-free, can not properly? ...
In 2005, a constitutional amendment and RTÜK are completely connected to the government. The opposition 'in a few seats up to us' that he remains silent. Law on Police Duties and Powers of the same year, a substance is changing. Made before the offense with a person appointed by the prime minister's wiretapping activities connected to a board attached to it ...
The Constitutional Court makes a comment during the presidential election. Wow you? The lightweight, 'They gave the lead to democracy' attack on the face of the Constitutional Court with a lot of ...
The Council of State gives a decision in 2004: the Council of State are shouting in chorus, 'You do not understand this business ... you're not scholars!' he.
Then comes the decision of a censor. The decision of the Council of State refused to find against the law. Chorus again, shouting: 'Someone was admitted, and someone immediately agreed!' he ...
One look at the selection of candidates, and the judge passes a law and a midnight all the priority of power left to bureaucrats. President of the Republic abroad, in that order. Signing and returning the same night. 'How?' When asked, 'I had studied previously. I knew the contents of 'he says.
At midnight, passed by parliament, but somehow it previously examined the President! ..
The Supreme Electoral Council, 'Would there be 6 million a year, the number of voters? Business will be? ' You say the answer: 'Do not confuse Orasını! You know better than the state? ' happening.
But today, Minister of State Printer, 'Why is the Board of Elections are interested in giving the poor fridge?' description of the shape of the Prime Minister's statements, and it turns out, 'he went to the Supreme Election Board!' have to say.
All of them have no meaning. Separate but closely related to each sense of each other! .. You have to see. Need to be aware of this. The Constitutional Court, Supreme Administrative Court, the Supreme Electoral Council, the Universities, the Armed Forces, "Either let me, or you oppose me 'face politics. There is no such thing a constitutional state, the unthinkable is! ..

"A SAFETY DIRECTOR FINDS A prosecutor is believed to DO whatever you want"
Batum, Prime Minister Erdogan's "silahşörlerim described as" the "liberal intelligentsia" s, power-aware applications, the rule of law in the economic success of continuous ovation, and the government constantly drawing tables, powder pink, contrary to the claims designated to perform a function in terms of democracy defended the negative. Batum said:
"Liberal ekonomistlerimizi read for years, listening. Look, the 2002 to 2008, ie until the crisis broke out ... what they say: Always fly! Continuous uçuştayız! Even the United States is jealous of us. Biting the finger in the face of success in all the world! .. So good, so perfectly! ..
Send ado, let me give an example: The United Nations Development Programme Human Development Report each year publishes lists according to criteria of human development, and countries. After the 2001 crisis in the 2002 report ranked 16th among 173 countries in Turkey As the economy is great. 16 of the world to be largest economy is extremely important. But the people of this wealth, population education, health, welfare more important than how it reflects. This 'Human Development' it said. I mentioned in the UN report, 16 of 173 countries in 2002 Turkey's human development ranking as the 85th largest economy. 88th of 177 countries in its 2004 report. 84'üncü the order of 177 countries in the 2007-2008 report. So immediately after the 2001 crisis, pushing the Turkish people in poverty, while ranking 85th Turkey since 2002 in the "great development effort", but 84'üncü 2008 report ranks. In other words, up and seen the only one in six years.
Why is this so, do you think? Because the report, the total national income of countries based on just sıralamıyor. That income "people health and education services to the distributed, dispersed among people of equal opportunities between males and females dağıtmadığı it, they can provide provisioning of clean water, girls and boys from the school period, the young people of school age are giving service can not deliver adequate training, people with a clean environment and can not provide the opportunity to live "lists based on criteria such as.
So, Turkey is today, one of the largest economies in the world's leading, but that exceed the size of the people, business, education, health, cleanliness does not reflect in! ..
However, not only removal of the law dealing with Turkey. You know, Van University rector arrested. If you press and with the house next to the Rector, who arrested the region. Personal belongings, books, collections of escrow court took the sacks filled. A preliminary field trial of this. Followed by the other 'works' in a sense foreshadowed. What happened? Together, we have seen. There, a university official died in terrible conditions ...
We are 'media' We knew when we went to Van Rector asked 'media', members were accused of more precisely: "OK, you can have not contraband, but did not construct missionary schools do?" They said. We diplomas, look at their careers 'lawyers' thought themselves, but a number of false arrest claims Crawling Rector. Democrats think 'relatives, friend,' Lagendjik, of course, comes in this court we were saying, but I heard what was going on, but 66 days later! ..
The case of Ergenekon, no lawyers, 'You judge these people, you can not detained, soruşturamazsınız' said. 'You can do them, but you have to make lawful "he said. What did they say against it? 'We was the case in the past, people may die while under arrest,' they said. Sandıklarımız Aydin, undemocratic practices of the period, using today to defend democracy, completely contrary to the practices. 'People judge, get arrested, you need to probe for lawful but not all of' you say, just do not understand. Then the 'reputable alınamazmış detained persons, I do not agree with it, "he commented. The 'liberal demokrat'ı you say no do not understand, or refuses to understand. Browsing weeps, 'it made the former President of the Council of Higher Education, the Secretary General of the NSC was a shame done' he says. Another 12 Mart, 12 Sept. remind 'people, rights are held in detention every 90 days for an investigation of torture were you seeing? "He says. They not only those mentioned in the Ergenekon case, no one understands the need not to. Walking in a case, the lack of break even in 17 months have passed in the middle of the indictment does not understand what it means, kavrayamıyor. Or, 'these procedures, it does not matter, you see the real purpose!' he says. Purpose 'sublime' when, 'supreme' law is obscured go! ..
Think about it, who was arrested 17 months later following Nurseli İdiz'e asked: 'Why did you attend the Republican rally? I led to the Ergenekon? Why do you talk on the phone swearing? '! ..
Today's situation is this: a police chief, a prosecutor, do you want to find! It is believed, but I need to add that the circuit court entered the business when it comes before the judge passed the investigation work is changing. Here is a judicial decision the previous day said: 'They're not the evidence' he said. 'They are on the internet, rumors circulating around since many years ago' he said. 'The man run away, do not karartacağı evidence' he said, and ultimately gave decision to evacuate ...
Draws attention to a detail that can not help saying. Evacuation decision gerekçelendiriliyor detail. However, such justification is given to the original arrest warrant is required. One, will be evidence of the two, this evidence will be based on the indictment, the three, the court will evaluate them! .. Arrest warrant is issued, why it should be put out by the evidence! Court, the justification to do today, shows that there is obvious how great a repression. What is this pressure, today's newspapers 'Musketeers' understood what he wrote. "
"Turkey 's bright, honest people"
Batumi, "Turkey's general statement" of the main lines could be determined in this way, but said it should be interpreted as pessimism or despair. In Turkey, the current prognosis was taken from the end of the first steps toward the mid-80s recording of Batumi, "None of us at that time, somebody, some of our friends (!) Looking for a new regime for Turkey, it began to build the infrastructure did not understand. From there, the Prime Minister's 'They are my silahşorlarım' said, it was also considered a great compliment by them liberal intellectuals was a very rapid transition. From there, the party closure case against Turkey's chief prosecutor leading the 'Ergenekon, where there appeared to seep into the saying' those who represent the highest level of ministers and the Republic of Turkey does not know anyone, and the state has seen an environment where all the bodies together on the hidden secrets' or let me or against me 'he is classified as shown in each of the days will be reduced very quickly reached the castles, "he said.
Batumi is reached where "the economy, agriculture, unemployment, inequality, democracy, law, in short, what should be done for a better to live in Turkey, to produce a better, more prosperous country to live in a need to talk about what should be done, who is more pious is, who is a Muslim, not more, "he said. Always the most important enemy of Turkey, the state mechanisms of social and political tolerance, which is dominated by 'politics and the political cadres', which is expressed in Batumi, the "social tolerance and understanding more and more intolerance in Turkey and asked to be taken to anlayışsızlığa. All the signs of it last year, we saw all the consequences. To do this, only the Prof. Dr. Binnaz Soil and colleagues 'Being Different in Turkey, Religion and Conservatism Ötekileştirilenler Axis' research on the severing of the storm, especially due to the ruling power in the wing intellectuals, and of course (!), Criticism from liberal intellectuals and writers (!) Enough to look at, "he said .
Batumi is finished by saying: "Turkey is an important country. With the history of the Republic, a country with the biggest gains and the Republican era. Turkey also had civil constitutions, it also created equal citizens of a country. If necessary, they can do all over again ...
President, not long ago 'bright people in Turkey said, "I called on the President the people of Turkey's bright, bright, and I believe that honest people. Them, they discover a table and a full-term in Germany, Latin America, as well as the opportunity they would not believe the dark prognosis.
I believe that we will from this period. Turkey, it would never hazırlayanları traps and break this vicious cycle by disturbing accounts, will be here.

You can deceive some of them TODAY, FOR A LONG TIME, BUT A GREAT NATION fooling
Husamettin Cindoruk, Batum, in his speech, said that Turkey was the situation of a complete frame. Cindoruk said:
"Batum said the following: Turkey is a secular, democratic, social state of law ...
Turkey's 'social' state is distributed in the Tunceli, refrigerators, washing machines is a good idea!
I've had many legal process, I saw, I have witnessed. The advantage of the elderly, ages. When they witnessed the ages, whether they are living. Let's just say: I am not pessimistic. I am not in despair. Because I know that experience of: fool some people today, you can drag behind you. But a great nation can not fool a long time! ..
That said, I argue the legitimacy of the present government. 'Votes on election stumps ... garbage like' the sığınmıyorum grounds. I am telling you authorized to administer the election for a period of political will as a country. From the very beginning of the country, public order, security is entrusted to you. Equal treatment to citizens of this deposit in your hand, stick to the rule of law, when the time is also expected that the Trust to transfer the new arrivals without any grievances. Because of circulation, which should be the state. Is essential to the continuity of the state. The continuity of the continuity of the legal system of the State ...
But what are they doing? All the institutions of the state as an occupier (So far, no government is involved, including the world-wide reputation and reliability of the Turkish Statistical Institute) taking over. Diversity which dealt with the clash. Him, forcing surrender. Refers to any lengths to do this. Using each method. Comes into conflict with the judiciary and the Armed Forces! ..
Do not have a share of the legal system from going that far? Now look: The Constitutional Court, 11 members, 10 voted, 'This party has become a focus of anti-secularism. Anti-secular activities odaktır! ' he says. The Constitutional Court takes such a decision. Including in particular the Prime Minister, Minister of National Education, the other ministers, elders of the party and the party's elected mayor blames this decision. It says, 'You have made the focus of this party of anti-secularism. Where did you put against the fundamental principles of the State! '... Well! He says what's going on? 'The focus is fixed, but this focus kapatmıyorum, give a little fine' he says. Would be justification for a decision on the basis of. This in essence, that justification is put forward as the situation is very clear ... But, 'kapatma'ya,' activity for men etme'ye 'I do not know what time assistance experience few will be deprived of the treasure', will you? This will not work!
Here I take note: not criticizing a party. One zuçlamıyorum our party. Our legal system, legal system criticize. A fundamental nature of the activities against the state according to law 'focus' was the party, now holds a majority of Parliament and the government continues to be in Turkey! ..
I am against the closure of parties, but we have a situation beyond the closing party. Have established a judicial center. So, a political, not legal premises are talking about a premises ...
Truman, asking: 'Why etkilemiyorsun appointed judges?' he. The answer is: I tried, tried, but I could not! ..
So, even in a country like the U.S. presidents struggling to impress members of the Constitutional Court. For it is dealing with has been unable to influence anything else but! What is important is this! ..
The president has a big role in the Constitution. The President issued a major role! Remember: the election period, 'Do not rush' said! 'Presidential vekille execute a few months, then the public would choose' he said. It's all in the decisions of the Constitutional Court had prepared. 'Happens' they said, but 'will,' he being on the other hand lead to the strange situation kaçınmadılar. The Prime Minister, stood 'brother so and so candidate' he said. President of the Prime Minister was chosen! Law on the other hand, there is talk from the president elected by the people! The law says so, but a President elected by the people there! ..
Abdullah Gul, a brother to love. Indeed, the presidency is doing its utmost to prove, but for how long?
For example, a small out Yalcin says, 'the President was married with a kid! So one can not be president! ' he says. Indeed, in Europe or something, a person 17 years of age do not fill the 'child' is considered. So my brother got up and Yalcin Abdullah Gul meets all of Küçük. Thank you very much trying to prove himself, but his wife can not go with the Officers Club. How will he do? "

FAIRNESS Fairness Judges, PROSECUTORS FAIR, EVEN IF IT TAKES JUST Stations
Husamettin Cindoruk, Turkey can not be denied spent much effort in line with the way things go, he said, but defended these efforts could provide the necessary benefits. Noting that an important factor in this, the attitude of the ruling party Cindoruk, "For example, çekebilirlerdi 5% electoral threshold. Moral law can, immunities kaçınabilirlerdi abuse. Would they make them in their reputations. It will be the rule of law, and you'll empty the rule of law, is not so! "He said.
A constitutional state, the state judiciary crucial in the foot, essentially behaves very careful records of judicial power in recent times Cindoruk, said:
"Just remember: for a fair trial, fair judges are needed. But not enough to just have a need to prosecutors. There is a need to police stations or even fair. Judiciary, in arresting, while also being careful to drain. But this is not a guarantee for a fair trial. Because security is not the judiciary law. The judiciary is only a part of the law ... "
Division of the people of Turkey, the opinions of the people had left the camps also pointed out that there Cindoruk, "People's why breaking it? Indivisible People. If you, the people will not wake feelings of indignation among the various layers, not create reasons for people facing each other between the various segments of the population would not be cause for division, "he said. Cindoruk said:
"Friends, young people, we have established to Turkey! Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia set up somebody else. Syria, Syrians, Egyptians, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Saudis are not established. Moreover, we have established to fight Turkey. This is not an easy task. There is a consensus of this organization. Turkey, the Western fulfilled in every area, starting from 1922. What's missing? There is no missing much! Therefore, the EU wants to from us jobs only have one team harmony. Because there are already others, has already been done! We process the rule of law from the 1920s, but earlier in the Ottoman Empire, 18 century of came from. This is a large accumulation. Not only in the accumulation, organization, and developed on the basis increases. Now what will you do it? Who act as if there is no, that would work for you? .. "
Military coups in Turkey to come to mind when entering a political impasse that is a misfortune Cindoruk also noted, "Darbelemekle, darbelenmekle be reached anywhere. Our minds, our minds, our rights in this work we will use. Legitimate ways and means be apart. First of all, we know it, "he said.
Turkey's view, "there is a secular and a Kasımpaşalılar as" Cindoruk stated that, "a two in the Prime Minister says: 'I Kasımpaşalıyım'! Well, but it stops telling me, 'You Kasımpaşalıysan, I Mustafakemalpaşalıyım' those who will always, "he said.
Cindoruk, finished by saying:
"This selection, combine them into a referendum on the next local selection. To combine them into a referendum on national government to protect. Anonymous mind today requires this. Anonymous reason it is recommended to us today! ..
In this respect, friends, dear young people, we prefer the next election, the candidates, looking at people, but let common sense looking at! ..

Information: Husamettin Cindoruk and Suhayl Batum "Face to Face Talks intellectuals in", "Problems of the Turkish Empire and the Future of Law" on the news of their conversation.

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